Glass Refrigerator Shelves

[Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)]

Will placing a hot pot or dish on a glass refrigerator shelf crack it,
or is the glass specially treated to make it crack proof from heat?
Thanks.

[Tony Hwang]

Post by Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)
Will placing a hot pot or dish on a glass refrigerator shelf crack it,
or is the glass specially treated to make it crack proof from heat?
Thanks.

Hmmm,
I never saw glass shelf crack but never put anything hot on it either.
What is the wisdom of putting something hot on the glass shelf?
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

[notbob]

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?

nb

[Han]

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?
nb

Why not put the pot first in a shallower bigger pan with cold water, and/or
run cold water to cool the hot dish. While the glass shelf might not crack
(who knows), it seems more energy efficient to cool the hot thing down a
bit first.

[Robert Neville]

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?

Placing a hot dish in a refrigerator is generally not a good idea as it will
heat up the surrounding food, possibly causing it to wilt or spoil. There are
flash coolers for such purposes.

[ThatNerdyGuy]

That's moronic. If the refrigerator goes above its temperature threshold it will trip the thermostat and simply cool itself down again to maintain a consistent cold temperature. Refrigerators are very efficient at that... And it's not like any food nearby would ever get "hot" or even "warm" and certainly not for any extended period. Keep in mind, the food itself is already cold from being in the refrigerator, and any minor fluctuation in nearby temperature from a warm dish isn't going to be enough to put it in the "danger zone" before the other dish cools off and everything returns to a steady 'cold' state

[Tony Hwang]

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?
nb

Hi,
No. The opposite.

[George]

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?
nb

Why call someone stupid just because you don't get something?

Who exactly puts a hot pot directly into a fridge?

[Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)]

Post by George

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?
nb

Why call someone stupid just because you don't get something?
Who exactly puts a hot pot directly into a fridge?

I'd be delighted to 'splain.

Every Sunday, I simmer a huge pot of beans that have been soaking
overnight in the fridge. After an hour on the stove, they're dumped
into a pyrex bowl. That bowl is hot as hell. Whatchoo suggest, I
should leave 'em outta the fridge until they cool off?

[cshenk]

Post by Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)
Every Sunday, I simmer a huge pot of beans that have been soaking
overnight in the fridge. After an hour on the stove, they're dumped
into a pyrex bowl. That bowl is hot as hell. Whatchoo suggest, I
should leave 'em outta the fridge until they cool off?

Grin, I use a crockpot (less cost to make'em, can leave on 'warm' for a day
or so to enjoy before you need to decant to something else).

Beans can be left safely to cool until you can easily handle the container
with no problem, even with meat in them. Main risk once they are that cool
is overheating something else in the fridge causing unsafe or unsightly
spoilage.

Best bet for both food safety and not harming the fridge: Pour beans in your
chosen keeper and set it on the counter while you eat. Can set in the sink
with a little tap water partway up the container (room temp water) to speed
this. Eat, enjoy, wash dishes then put it in the fridge. You won't 'Doctor
Destructo' the mayo and other things then.

[George]

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Post by George

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?
nb

Why call someone stupid just because you don't get something?
Who exactly puts a hot pot directly into a fridge?

I'd be delighted to 'splain.
Every Sunday, I simmer a huge pot of beans that have been soaking
overnight in the fridge. After an hour on the stove, they're dumped
into a pyrex bowl. That bowl is hot as hell. Whatchoo suggest, I
should leave 'em outta the fridge until they cool off?

No, but it doesn't take very long for something that is screaming hot to
get down to a reasonable temperature where you can then pop it in the
fridge.

[mm]

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?
nb

Actually, they have been recommending for about 20 years that hot
food, at least meat or some kinds of food, be allowed to cool in the
fridge, rather than on a counter, to shorten the period that the temp
is okay for growing germs. At the age of 80, my mother changed her
practices to do this, at least some of the time.

But she didn't have glass shelves.

I don't bother to do it and I certainly wouldn't do it with glass
shelves, and I think Luna2n's post settles it.

What a pain it must be to find replacement shelves for all but the
newest refridges.


On Leno tonight, he had a newspaper wedding announcment for the
couple, Salm-Minella. I kid you not.

[Tony]

Post by mm

Post by notbob

Post by Tony Hwang
I just don't get it. Are you trolling?

Hot container in refrigerator to cool it. Are you stupid?
nb

Actually, they have been recommending for about 20 years that hot
food, at least meat or some kinds of food, be allowed to cool in the
fridge, rather than on a counter, to shorten the period that the temp
is okay for growing germs. At the age of 80, my mother changed her
practices to do this, at least some of the time.

It's still a circulating old wives tale to not only let it cool to room
temperature, but to leave it UNCOVERED during that time! My ex with a
masters in culinary was taught that way only 15 years ago thanks to the
highly respected Johnson & Wales University.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Post by Tony
It's still a circulating old wives tale to not only let it cool to room
temperature, but to leave it UNCOVERED during that time! My ex with a
masters in culinary was taught that way only 15 years ago thanks to the
highly respected Johnson & Wales University.

Not really a tale as there was basis in fact. Go back to ice boxes where
hot food would cause the ice to melt. Things got better with mechanical
refrigeration, but it was far from perfect a a big mass of hot food would
bring up the temperature for everything in the fridge for a while until it
caught up. New units can take quite a load, but I still give at least a
short time for cooling. As for covering, that keeps in the heat so if you
do have a large quantity, it will take longer to cool down to a safe
temperature.

[Tony]

Post by Ed Pawlowski

Post by Tony
It's still a circulating old wives tale to not only let it cool to
room temperature, but to leave it UNCOVERED during that time! My ex
with a masters in culinary was taught that way only 15 years ago
thanks to the highly respected Johnson & Wales University.

Not really a tale as there was basis in fact. Go back to ice boxes
where hot food would cause the ice to melt. Things got better with
mechanical refrigeration, but it was far from perfect a a big mass of
hot food would bring up the temperature for everything in the fridge for
a while until it caught up. New units can take quite a load, but I
still give at least a short time for cooling. As for covering, that
keeps in the heat so if you do have a large quantity, it will take
longer to cool down to a safe temperature.

The worst part of it is leaving it uncovered while cooling. Much better
to leave it covered and let it cool slowly. Uncovered is just asking
for all kinds of airborne stuff to start growing in it.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Post by Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)
Will placing a hot pot or dish on a glass refrigerator shelf crack it,
or is the glass specially treated to make it crack proof from heat?
Thanks.

Yes, it can and has broken shelves. Cool it down some first or put a cooling
rack on the shelf, then the pan Always best to let a hit dish come down in
temperature before refrigerating.

[Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)]

On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:15:10 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"

Post by Ed Pawlowski

Post by Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)
Will placing a hot pot or dish on a glass refrigerator shelf crack it,
or is the glass specially treated to make it crack proof from heat?
Thanks.

Yes, it can and has broken shelves. Cool it down some first or put a cooling
rack on the shelf, then the pan Always best to let a hit dish come down in
temperature before refrigerating.

Thanks.

Yeah, I always put a pot holder under the hot pyrex dish, but was
wondering if that was really necessary.

I'll continue to do so.

[aemeijers]

Post by Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:15:10 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"

Post by Ed Pawlowski

Post by Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)
Will placing a hot pot or dish on a glass refrigerator shelf crack it,
or is the glass specially treated to make it crack proof from heat?
Thanks.

Yes, it can and has broken shelves. Cool it down some first or put a cooling
rack on the shelf, then the pan Always best to let a hit dish come down in
temperature before refrigerating.

Thanks.
Yeah, I always put a pot holder under the hot pyrex dish, but was
wondering if that was really necessary.
I'll continue to do so.

They sell little sewer-grate looking things called trivets, specifically
to put under hot containers. Since I am reading this on alt.home.repair,
I'll suggest making your own. Buy a cheap but thick wooden cutting
board, like for cheese at parties, and cut a tapered hole in center the
correct size to hold bowl in a non-wobbly fashion. (Isn't the bowl on a
pot holder wobbly?) Drill a few skinny holes edgeways in from the
outside, to allow ventilation. You want a board and hole sized so bean
bowl doesn't actually ever touch the glass.

Personally, I'd just set a plate over the top to keep bugs out, and
leave it sit on the counter for 10-15 minutes, and not worry about it.
If you get called away, several hours will not make any difference to
the beans, safety or taste-wise. You eat beans out of crock-pot at
buffets, don't you? On the 'warm' setting, they are a fine incubator.

[ktos]

Sit on it with your bare ass.

[LSMFT]

Post by Sometimes-It''s-Hill (Jack)
Will placing a hot pot or dish on a glass refrigerator shelf crack it,
or is the glass specially treated to make it crack proof from heat?
Thanks.

Never put anything hot in the refrigerator, it's senseless. Let it cool
to room temperature then put it in the refrigerator. Why wast energy
pumping all that heat out of the fridge?

[notbob]

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Post by LSMFT
to room temperature then put it in the refrigerator. Why wast energy
pumping all that heat out of the fridge?

You never finished cooking something, then was suddenly called away
unexpectedly? Never been called back to work for some emergency?
Must be nice to be able to stay home forever. Restaurants do not wait
around for warm/hot foods to cool at closing time. They put them in
the cold case. Get real.

nb